How much government fraud is estimated to occur annually according to the Wall Street Journal?

According to a Wall Street Journal editorial referenced in the clip, federal government fraud is estimated to be between $233 billion and $521 billion annually. This staggering figure stands in stark contrast to how some media outlets have portrayed the issue, with the host noting that certain 'tribunes of truth in the press' claim that government fraud is merely 'a mirage.' The clip suggests there's a significant disconnect between media narratives and the actual scale of government fraud, similar to how other issues like border security have been downplayed.